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Karl Felixleop Günter "Günter" Thilo

Karl Felixleop Günter "Günter" Thilo

Male 1907 - 1966  (59 years)

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  1. 1.  Karl Felixleop Günter "Günter" ThiloKarl Felixleop Günter "Günter" Thilo was born 23 Aug 1907 (son of August Ferdinand Carl Thilo and Therese Marie von Beschwitz); died 10 Oct 1966.

    Notes:

    Dr. G. Thilo
    Head - Master of High-School 17.3.1948
    Bad Blankenburg/Thuringia-Forest
    Germany
    Frobelstr. 7

    Mr. Milton and Mrs. Majory B e s c h w i t z
    457 Roslyn Pl.
    C h i c a g o 14, Ill.
    U.S.A

    Dear Cousin Milton!

    It is now three years, that this war with all its senseless cruelties is over and this is the first time that I write you a letter, I hope you will excuse my bad English. When we got the first letter of your dear mother, aunt Maud, our eyes filled with tears. That your dearest father, our uncle George, has gone away for ever without seeing the end of this cruel war and that you are all thinking of us with cordiality, these both facts have affected us strongly. So many years have passed, that uncle George has left Germany, and although, he remained always one of our dearest relatives. Since the first day of my youth, my dear mother has spoken so much of her elder brother George and about his excellent violin-playing. That was my mother's greatest desire, that I should continue this splendid tradition of our common grandfather Leopold and uncle George, and so I began violin-playing when I was a child of six years. Although the musical art hasn't become my profession I am fond of violin-playing also still to-day and every week I have the pleasure to play with some excellent artist's quartettes of stringed instruments, and the notes, we use, are the old volumes of grandfather and of your dearest father. Uncle George has written so many signs in it, and so I have an everlasting memorial of your dear father. I am happy to have saved these notes, worse luck I have lost my beautiful violin by the bombardment of Dresden, also an old remembrance of Beschwitz family. On my piano in Dresden there was always placed a picture of uncle George together with his intimate friend Concertmaster Alfred Meyer - Wianko, my own teacher in violin-playing, unfortunately, both pictures are burnt.

    I was glad to hear of Majories letter, that your son George, the dear "Bob", as uncle George has often written, is also fond of music and above all of Chopin, the favorite of my dear mother. Alas! I have rarely time to play music, my scientificall works occupy myself completely. Last year in September I got the position as head-master of a high school, I give every week lectures in history and literature. During the time of National Socialism I was not permitted to practice my profession on account of my antagonism to the Nazis, that were bad times for my little family, my wife has lost her health by these calamities, 1933 - 36 I have spent some years in France, the Nazi-government has me given no work in Germany, because of my membership to the social - democratic party. Indeed these were difficult times and above all my dear mother was always declining this government. But we were never allowed to write uncle George a word about these things, we should have lost our heads! And now, dear cousin Milton, I hope you are confessed, that we can write you "everything". But don't we speak about.

    With your dear father, the last of my mother's brothers and sisters has gone in a better world, my mother was the youngest of all, I have had two sisters, my eldest sister Annemarie has died few weeks after the bombardment of Dresden, this was the worst day of our life, my parents house has completely dashed to pieces. But I will be always full of gratitude to the Lord, that I was able to save my old parents and my younger sister out of the ruins, Gretel has also lost her husband by the National Socialist terror. Two days after the bombardment we have moved from Dresden to the lovely Blankenburg/Thuringia - Forest, the native - town of Beschwitz family, and we are happy, that God in His grace has given us the joy that we can live here all together. On account of the heavy illness of my wife, she and my little son have lived here in Blankenburg already before the end of the war. I have married 1935, my wife Hanna is two years younger than I, (38) and my son has been born 1938. I have given him the old name of Beschwitz family "Hans - Christoph". He is the single heir of Beschwitz and Thilo name in Europe, a handsome boy, I may say without presumption diligent, he thinks to become a medicin, but we have to wait, nobody can say, what future will bring to Germany! It is only so mournful, that the childhood of our little - one has to miss all. He doesn't know all these beautiful things, children like so much. You can't imagine the beaming eyes he has made, when he tasted the chocolate on Christmas, he received from his grandmother, the present of dear aunt Maud. Up to this moment he has never seen something like, though he is ten years old! But we will not complain of, we will be thankful to our Savior, when we don't starve, but may be, there are still more serious dangers ahead of us.

    But now I will come to an end with my letter, dear cousin Milton, I cannot but thank you, dearest aunt Maud and Majory that you have supported my old parents with some parcels, that was a very pleasant assistance for them in this unimaginable hard struggle for life. Papa has had the kindness to give me the tobacco, because he is non-smoker. We are only ashamed that we can do nothing for our dear relationship in America, we can only thank the Lord for so much love. I myself, I should be very glad to keep up a correspondence with one of my dear cousins, that maybe an interesting interchange and besides I should be thankful to improve my English knowledge. Please, give me notice of my mistakes.

    What is your dearest mother doing? Has she arrived already by cousin Willard? We have nothing heard so long time of her.

    Dear cousin Milton, dear cousin Majory
    with kindest regards
    your cousin G u n t e r and H a n n a

    P.S. We were full astonished that Claus Erleck has written you. Till now he has neer cared for his family not to mention his relationship in America. He is the grandson of our dear uncle Moritz, the eldest brother of uncle George and my mother. We were often sad, that this part of the family had so little interest for Beschwitz family, this was also and everlasting grief of our dear uncle Moritz up to the end of his life (1934). But now, it is a favorite pleasure of many people here in Germany to write American relationship, although they never cared for them before.

    In this moment, my dear mother comes to see me, she also is sending you the best greetings. Have the kindness and write, if you are able to read my "exellent" English, I enclosure a small Photo of my little family, hoping to give you an impression of my wife and son. Will you send me also some photos? I have some photos of you, but only made at the time 1925 - 1936.

    Your G u n t e r

    Karl married Johanna Wilfrieda Margarete "Hanna" "Margo" Luboch 3 Mar 1935. Johanna was born 30 Jun 1908, Calau; died 22 Mar 1949, Bad Blankenburg, Germany. [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. Ernst Ferdinand Hans-Christoph "Hans-Christoph" Thilo was born 3 Feb 1938, Dresden, Germany; died Sep 2012.

    Karl married Wera Lutze 1 Oct 1955, Bad Gandersheim, Germany. Wera was born 2 Jan 1927. [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. Sabine Thilo was born 22 May 1957, Bad Gandersheim, Germany.

Generation: 2

  1. 2.  August Ferdinand Carl ThiloAugust Ferdinand Carl Thilo was born 24 Jul 1866; died 28 May 1948, Bad Blankenburg, Germany.

    August married Therese Marie von Beschwitz 1 Oct 1902, Blankenburg, Germany. Therese (daughter of Wolf Leopold Moritz "Leopold" von Beschwitz and Johanna Maria Magdalena von Schwemler) was born 26 Jan 1873, Dresden, Sachsen, Germany; died 17 Nov 1957, Bad Blankenburg, Germany. [Group Sheet]


  2. 3.  Therese Marie von BeschwitzTherese Marie von Beschwitz was born 26 Jan 1873, Dresden, Sachsen, Germany (daughter of Wolf Leopold Moritz "Leopold" von Beschwitz and Johanna Maria Magdalena von Schwemler); died 17 Nov 1957, Bad Blankenburg, Germany.

    Notes:

    Blankenburg March 4, 1947

    My Dear Maude:

    Please excuse me that I haven't answered your letter sooner because I got it in the middle of February. The bad conditions we are having here make it difficult. Thanks for the picture. I had a picture of George's boys and home in Michigan, but lost everything when bombed out in Dresden, and all our memories went with. On January 31 I thought of George and our lives. If he were living he would have been writing about me. I hope he didn't worry too much about us the last days of his life.

    You asked our ages - Agnes 84, Carl will be 81 and I am 74. We thought we would have it better in our old age.

    We are thankful from the bottom of our hearts for your warm feelings and desire to help us so much. We are very thankful that Milton is going to send things to us. I only hope that all the packages will get here because they go through so many zones. I will write immediately when we receive a package. Please write very clearly Carl or Marie and Goldberg 14-A. There are about four families with the name Thilo. Your offer to send tobacco and cigarettes would be very much appreciated.

    It is very hard to write because of the intense cold. Our house consists of two rooms and a kitchen. We have to live, sleep, and cook in one room because we can not get much coal or wood. The temperature inside is thirty nine degrees which makes writing difficult with numbed hands. The light is turned off and we go to bed at seven in the evening.

    We can't get gas and heating supplied and can't properly prepare food. Since December 10th everything is frozen and we get water from next door. Living in Germany is bad. You should be thankful you are in America. I love my
    fatherland but if I were young I would leave it. The saying is you can't take an old tree and transplant it.

    Carl is not getting any pension, Henry lost his life going against Hitler. Gunther made a remark and nearly went to prison. Everywhere you went you couldn't talk because of spies. If George would have written anything we told him and his letter were opened it would have been difficult for us. Many families were in trouble.

    Agnes is living with Edith in Mariemburg. She thinks of you often and she helps us as much as she can. Edith's husband still has the factory. She has all her furniture but have their difficulties and have to work hard. Agnes had three eye operations and her heart at her age is not too good.

    Our children Gunther and Gretle help all they can and both are working hard to make ends meet. Gunther works for a family.

    I hope dear Maude this letter will arrive.

    Hearty greetings to all,

    Marie
    ----------
    Reference:
    Letter to Maude von Beschwitz

    Children:
    1. Clara Magdal Annemarie "Annemarie" Schade was born 13 Jul 1903, Chemnitz; died 10 Jun 1945, Bad Blankenburg, Germany.
    2. Agnes Frieda Margarete "Margarete" Thilo was born 22 Jan 1905, Chemnitz, Germany; died 15 Jun 1982, Overrhardt, Germany.
    3. 1. Karl Felixleop Günter "Günter" Thilo was born 23 Aug 1907; died 10 Oct 1966.


Generation: 3

  1. 6.  Wolf Leopold Moritz "Leopold" von BeschwitzWolf Leopold Moritz "Leopold" von Beschwitz was born 14 Nov 1826, Groß-Schweidnitz, Sachsen, Germany (son of Hans Christoph Moritz von Beschwitz and Henriette Agnes von Gersdorff); died 27 Nov 1888, Schmochtitz, Sachsen, Germany; was buried 29 Nov 1888, Taucherfriedhof, Bautzen, Sachsen, Germany.

    Other Events:

    • Residence: Alt-Hörnitz, Hörnitz, Sachsen, Germany; Inherited knight estate

    Notes:

    Royal Saxonian peace judge and inherited knight estate Alt-Hörnitz.

    Wolf married Johanna Maria Magdalena von Schwemler 1 Nov 1852, Zittau, Sachsen, Germany. Johanna (daughter of Ferdinand Gustav Carl Ernst von Schwemler and Johanne Emilie Caroline Krümmel) was born 22 Jul 1834, Frankfurt, Oder, Germany; was christened 19 Aug 1834, Frankfurt, Oder, Germany; died 7 May 1914, Blankenburg, Germany. [Group Sheet]


  2. 7.  Johanna Maria Magdalena von Schwemler was born 22 Jul 1834, Frankfurt, Oder, Germany; was christened 19 Aug 1834, Frankfurt, Oder, Germany (daughter of Ferdinand Gustav Carl Ernst von Schwemler and Johanne Emilie Caroline Krümmel); died 7 May 1914, Blankenburg, Germany.

    Notes:

    IGI lists surname as von Schwemmler:
    Christening: 19 AUG 1834 Milatary Records, Frankfurt Am Oder Stadt, Brandenburg, Preussen
    Mother: JOHANNE EMILIE KRUEMMEL
    Father: FERDINAND GUSTAV VON SCHWEMMLER

    Children:
    1. Hans Christoph Moritz "Moritz" von Beschwitz was born 17 Aug 1853, Alt-Hörnitz, Hörnitz, Sachsen, Germany; died 28 Feb 1934, Oberwatha, Germany.
    2. Ernst Moritz "Ernest" von Beschwitz was born 17 Aug 1860, Alt-Hörnitz, Hörnitz, Sachsen, Germany; died 6 Jan 1914, Hubertusburg.
    3. Agnes von Beschwitz was born 16 Sep 1863, Alt-Hörnitz, Hörnitz, Sachsen, Germany; died Abt Sep 1947.
    4. Rudolph Moritz von Beschwitz was born 24 Oct 1864, Alt-Hörnitz, Hörnitz, Sachsen, Germany; died 15 Jan 1934, Healy, Lane County, Kansas.
    5. Moritz Georg "George" von Beschwitz was born 31 Jan 1867, Alt-Hörnitz, Hörnitz, Sachsen, Germany; died 8 Mar 1945, Chicago, Cook County, Illinois; was buried 12 Jul 1945, Memorial Park Cemetery, Skokie, Cook County, Illinois.
    6. Elisabeth Gretian von Beschwitz was born 6 Nov 1868, Alt-Hörnitz, Hörnitz, Sachsen, Germany; died 14 Jun 1895; was buried Oak Grove Cemetery, White County, Arkansas.
    7. Wallh von Beschwitz was born 26 Feb 1872, Dresden, Sachsen, Germany.
    8. 3. Therese Marie von Beschwitz was born 26 Jan 1873, Dresden, Sachsen, Germany; died 17 Nov 1957, Bad Blankenburg, Germany.


Generation: 4

  1. 12.  Hans Christoph Moritz von BeschwitzHans Christoph Moritz von Beschwitz was born 29 Sep 1780, Groß-Schweidnitz, Sachsen, Germany (son of Christoph Moritz von Beschwitz and Karoline Friederica von Leubnitz); died 23 Nov 1848, Alt-Hörnitz, Hörnitz, Sachsen, Germany.

    Notes:

    Inherited knight estates Ober-Ottenhain, Groß-Schweidnitz which he sold in 1840 for Alt-Hörnitz.

    http://www.schlosshotel-althoernitz.de/

    Hans married Henriette Agnes von Gersdorff 13 Oct 1809, Groß-Schweidnitz, Sachsen, Germany. Henriette (daughter of Wolf Christian Ludwig von Gersdorff and Karoline Sofie Charlotte von Liebenau) was born 17 Mar 1791, Kieslingswalde, Sachsen, Germany; died 5 Jan 1863, Zittau, Sachsen, Germany. [Group Sheet]


  2. 13.  Henriette Agnes von GersdorffHenriette Agnes von Gersdorff was born 17 Mar 1791, Kieslingswalde, Sachsen, Germany (daughter of Wolf Christian Ludwig von Gersdorff and Karoline Sofie Charlotte von Liebenau); died 5 Jan 1863, Zittau, Sachsen, Germany.

    Notes:

    Kieslingswalde is 10 km East of Görlitz which may now be in Poland near the boarder with Germany.
    http://www.goerlitz.de/englisch/goerengl.html

    Children:
    1. Agnes Marie Karoline von Beschwitz was born 26 Sep 1811, Groß-Schweidnitz, Sachsen, Germany; died 10 Apr 1865, Reichenbach, Germany.
    2. Moritz Alexander von Beschwitz was born 6 Feb 1813, Groß-Schweidnitz, Sachsen, Germany; died 26 Nov 1863, Herrnhut, Sachsen, Germany.
    3. Clara von Beschwitz was born 2 Sep 1814, Groß-Schweidnitz, Sachsen, Germany; died 30 May 1855, Nieder-Zodel.
    4. Therese Natalie von Beschwitz was born 29 Jan 1817, Groß-Schweidnitz, Sachsen, Germany.
    5. Marie Pauline von Beschwitz was born 20 Apr 1819, Groß-Schweidnitz, Sachsen, Germany; died 30 Oct 1895.
    6. Wolf Moritz Walbemar von Beschwitz was born 24 Nov 1820, Groß-Schweidnitz, Sachsen, Germany; died 12 Oct 1821.
    7. 6. Wolf Leopold Moritz "Leopold" von Beschwitz was born 14 Nov 1826, Groß-Schweidnitz, Sachsen, Germany; died 27 Nov 1888, Schmochtitz, Sachsen, Germany; was buried 29 Nov 1888, Taucherfriedhof, Bautzen, Sachsen, Germany.

  3. 14.  Ferdinand Gustav Carl Ernst von Schwemler

    Notes:

    Starke lists given name as D. Ernst.

    Royal Preuß PLts

    IGI Lists:
    FERDINAND GUSTAV SCHWEMMLER
    Spouse: EMILIE CAROLINE KRUEMMEL
    Marriage:
    12 JUN 1831 Milatary Records, Frankfurt Am Oder Stadt, Brandenburg, Preussen

    and another entry:
    FERDINAND GUSTOPH SCHWEMMLER
    Spouse: JOHANNE EMILE KRUEMMEL
    Marriage:
    12 JUN 1832 Milatary Records, Frankfurt Am Oder Stadt, Brandenburg, Preussen

    Ferdinand married Johanne Emilie Caroline Krümmel 12 Jun 1831, Frankfurt Am Oder Stadt, Brandenburg, Preussen. [Group Sheet]


  4. 15.  Johanne Emilie Caroline Krümmel

    Notes:

    Milatary Records, Frankfurt Am Oder Stadt, Brandenburg, Preussen
    Heiraten 1770-1800 Tote 1784-1848 Konfirm. 1783-1832 FHL INTL Film 71215

    Children:
    1. 7. Johanna Maria Magdalena von Schwemler was born 22 Jul 1834, Frankfurt, Oder, Germany; was christened 19 Aug 1834, Frankfurt, Oder, Germany; died 7 May 1914, Blankenburg, Germany.